Good night — as I am taking the waters, I must go to bed. I mean, I can't say that I was the first to come up with Josephine. If someone has only read his diaries, his letters, his moral writings… He would consider such an act, a terrible dishonorable behavior. What a life! They're all saying there's no proof that there was any contact between Josephine and Beethoven later on. In any case, if one day this great mystery were to be solved by an indisputable proof, would we find our appreciation of the works of Beethoven and of the man, himself changed? The identity of Beethoven’s “Immortal Beloved” (more accurately translated as “Eternally Beloved”) has confounded historians for two centuries and even inspired a movie. Which woman is entitled to this title? At my actual age I should need some continuity, sameness of life — can that exist under our circumstances? And our culture would only make some sordid media soap opera out of a most sad and beautiful love story. The letter was found amongst the composers things after his death. The second is more difficult. Beethoven has not finished astounding us, surprising us and enchanting us! I mean, maybe he thought there'd be this scandal about the paternity or he wanted to undertake a Große Handlung or something. My bosom is full, to tell you much — there are moments when I find that speech is nothing at all. He was not having a spa treatment in this city of water. Second Question: Where was the Immortal Beloved letter written? You have the same sort of wording in these earlier love letters and the letter to the Immortal Beloved where he says, ‘you know I have been faithful to you that no other woman can...’, MALTZ: To clarify for those who don't speak German, please explain the significance of Beethoven referring to Josephine as 'du' instead of the formal 'Sie. To view past editions, visit the Newsletter page. After the death of the composer (Gary Oldman), director Bernard Rose lets admirer and secretary Anton Schindler (Jeroen Krabbé) look for the anonymous lover. Your faithfulLudwig Monday evening, 6 JulyYou suffer, you, my dearest creature. And so you have these letters that turned up, and the language is very close to what Beethoven used in the letter to the Immortal Beloved – calls her, my angel, my all. Canst thou change it, that thou are not entirely mine, I not entirely thine? In it, he writes of his unconditional love and devotion to someone he refers to as his Unsterbliche Geliebte, or Immortal Beloved. Art is something related to the soul, to the Sacred, to the Divine. . Dr. Steblin, I would like to thank you personally for your research. We can listen to this love in the vibrant bliss, of so many passionate adagios, in the sorrow present in those painful tones, in so many melodies loaded with sadness and memories. Beethoven: Piano Concerto No. In the end, he does not commit suicide (just as well for the sake of music), but he keeps this call of distress for 25 years, until his death, with the letter for his Immortal Beloved…. Good morning, on 7 JulyEven in bed my ideas yearn towards you, my Immortal Beloved, here and there joyfully, then again sadly, awaiting from Fate, whether it will listen to us. Letter to the Immortal Beloved, 1812 Oldman gives a tour de force performance as the passionate, volatile genius who inspired love and hatred in equal measure. After his death in 1827, the following love letter was found amongst the personal papers of Ludwig van Beethoven, penned by the composer over the course of two days in July of 1812 while staying in Teplice. For example, his brain was obsessively measured, weighed and described (with most interesting results we might add). Well, the emperor was in Prague on July 1st and so I think that she wanted to try to solve these financial problems by speaking with the emperor and speaking with relatives of her husband. We know this because of a letter in three parts, found in Beethoven’s desk after his desk. The apparently unsent letter was found in the composer's estate following his death, after which it remained in the hands of Anton Schindler until his death, was subsequently willed to his sister, and was sold by her in 1880 to the Berlin State Library, where it remai… Therese was supposed to take care of the older children in a villa in the suburbs of Vienna. But, I decided to look at the problem again from a new angle and to look at that word kennen and thought, okay, if you view it in the biblical sense of to know a woman, sleep with her. When a cryptic letter from musical genius Ludwig van Beethoven turned up shortly after his death, it started one of history's most compelling romantic mysteries. And as we all know…, we that admire and love Beethoven and his music so much, he does not deserve this to be done with his most intimate feelings. These were requirements that Beethoven himself “joked” about on some occasion. And it wasn't until 1860 when he brought out another edition of his Beethoven biography with a facsimile of the letter that people could see… Oh, Julie isn't even mentioned in Beethoven's letter. And this is dated 1818. And he talks about his love for her and that he's won her heart and that she will make him more productive in his compositions and that she knows he's faithful to her and no other woman can win his heart. What I am bringing out now are the 108 marriage letters between Deym and Josephine and they're very erotic and they show that it was really a loving marriage, not like what you read in Therese's memoirs. The letter’s unnamed recipient — Beethoven’s “Immortal Beloved” — remains a mystery, and continues to generate debate. And what I've been doing recently is watching all these YouTube stories. And why did he keep it? And I discovered that Josephine got pregnant and her fifth child was illegitimate, Maria Laura. Who is this Immortal Beloved? And then working on her papers in Jindrichuv Hradec, I found some diaries, not really chronological, but some of the entries are June 1812 and one of the entries says, ‘I want to speak to Liebert in Prague.’ And we also know from her sister Therese's memoirs that Josephine had made a plan for 1812. And so it's exactly at that point that he lays claim to his nephew, even though Karl's father was still alive and wouldn't die for another few years. MALTZ: So, as we mentioned, Josephine Brunsvik as the Immortal Beloved. MALTZ: And this would explain how in the fall, Beethoven returning to Vienna, sees a happily-married Josephine with Stackelberg and writes, “Auf diese Art mit 'St' geht alles zu Grunde.”, STEBLIN: That's right. Immortal Beloved. So it is with you, you with me." But there exist two conditions: July the 6th must have been a Monday, and Beethoven's timetable must have allowed him to be out of Vienna on this day. And I think that was to declare his paternity, but instead he didn't want to cause a scandal for Josephine. But, through dedication, Dr. Steblin finally solved this mystery. STEBLIN: Yes. What is your view about this? MALTZ: We're skipping forward now, there was another cryptic comment that has stumped Beethoven researchers for years. Now, we have proof that Josephine was in Baden for weeks. When Schindler first met Beethoven, the composer explained the meaning behind a new sonata, and many years later, it turned out to be reflective of events mentioned in the “immortal beloved” letter. So all of a sudden, after this night with Beethoven, she probably suspects, uh-oh what do I do if I am pregnant? . Whom did Beethoven love so passionately? Where do I come from? } - Could a child have been born from this union - could there not be, somewhere, the descendants of the great Beethoven who are ignorant of their origins? MALTZ: It would seem to suggest that four years later it was still and has only ever been this one woman. Well, we know that Beethoven knew Josephine since 1799 so five years before would disqualify her. Many times it's fostered a heated debate. The first is easy: "... my life in W. is now a miserable life...". MALTZ: People love a story, right? I'm your host Daniel Adam Maltz. Love demands everything and is quite right, so it is for me with you, for you with me — only you forget so easily, that I must live for you and for me — were we quite united, you would notice this painful feeling as little as I should . STEBLIN: Years ago, a Berlin film crew wanted to make a film with me holding a shovel at her grave. He would loathe such a treasonous act. Therefore, a total of 10 pages make up the Immortal Beloved letter. For the best experience, please watch the video at the top of the page. How?! Don't let him into your house. Beethoven "Immortal Beloved" Letters/"Emperor" 2nd Movement - Duration: 8:19. She had many relatives from her first husband in Prague and after Deym's death, she took all her four children to speak with the Emperor Franz. So then, and once again, let us –this time-- admire in turn his keen intellect, and watch how this smart man, has left several generations past, and to come, ----- still looking for an answer to the Immortal Beloved. MALTZ: And it sends people down the wrong track for hundreds of years. Before, he did not live in Vienna, and he states the fact that he lives there in his letter. Well… because 'St' is kind of unusual and 'A' is much more common. Updated March 17, 2017 Beethoven's love letter is very famous and often quoted in literary media as well as television, movies, and commercials. IMMORTAL BELOVED Beethoven’s Love Letters On This Page The Immortal Beloved Letters The Early Candidates for the Immortal Beloved The Later Candidates Recent Theories Letters to Unknown Women Once upon a time in old Vienna, the great composer Ludwig von Beethoven passed away quietly at his home. Schindler brought out the first official biography of Beethoven in 1840 and, there, he claimed that the letter mentioned Julie Guicciardi. But, in this case, why not? Ludwig van Beethoven remained celibate for all of his life. STEBLIN: Well, she does admit that she was at some distance and was trying to listen in onto this conversation. MALTZ: You mentioned in one of your articles that Minona is buried in Vienna's Central Cemetery. Beethoven's love letters to his immortal beloved, 1812 L udwig van Beethoven (1770-1827) was a German composer and pianist. He is referring to Vienna (in German, the initial is a 'W' for 'Wien') and no one has found a reason to dispute this. Why has the Beethoven Immortal Beloved letter captured imaginations? The proposed possibilities as to the identity of this mystery woman are numerous, indeed too numerous for one man! STEBLIN: Well, I mean, what a scandal. And this money was now due, and Stackelberg had left Josephine. Then there comes an entry in Beethoven's diary that ends “Auf diese Art mit 'A' geht alles zu Grunde.” This means in this manner with (the initial A) everything goes to ruin. On one of their outings, they went to the wax museum of Count Deym, Joseph Deym. Elise – the mystery woman in Beethoven’s life, is still an unsolved mystery. The earliest… The mystery during the years has been who the “Immortal beloved” is. And so she was in a sense forced to marry this baron. Immortal is described by the author as “a novel inspired by real events”. MALTZ: So this speaks to Josephine's magnetic appeal. And it was there that they met Stackelberg, who was an Estonian baron. I should say, had been hiding under an assumed name, Meiersfeld, but it was a hyphenated Deym-Meiersfeld. Well, here you have 1818. And he said, ‘Don't worry, your children are my children.’. Therefore, the question is: is this form of speech, as it is used today, being used the same way in which it was two hundred years ago? Upon his death, a love letter was found among his possessions. Written in pencil, it is addressed to an unknown woman with whom Beethoven was apparently in a love relationship and to whom he refers at one point as his "Immortal Beloved." The entire letter is written on 10 small pages, in Beethoven's rather inconsistent handwriting. So, the marriage took place in Gran, Esztergom, Hungary in February of 1810. It is certain that nothing will stop the researchers and scholars of this question. } STEBLIN: This was about the time when Stackelberg brought his three daughters, including this Minona, back to Vienna and Therese says Minona was six years old. It is like looking once again in the wrong place. In this, I am again in agreement with my French friend: in a way, I am extremely glad that with all the research invested in the Immortal Beloved riddle, our culture academia failed miserably in revealing this particular mystery. She was in her eighties in 1920 when she brought out the book. I mean, because her solution was never taken seriously. Anyway, I believe that the question about WHY so much ink has been used in writing about the identity of the woman Beethoven loved can have an answer. Beethoven was known to love many women, and as his friend F.G. Wegeler once wrote, "Beethoven was never out of love." STEBLIN: What you get in these 14 love letters and there are drafts of her replies… you see that towards the end, around 1807 Josephine didn't allow Beethoven into her house anymore. A crucial figure in the transition between the Classical and Romantic eras in Classical music, he remains one of the most recognized and … Who was Beethoven’s Immortal Beloved, the unknown woman mentioned in a passionate letter discovered after Beethoven’s death? This date is the one most widely accepted today. . She was the dedicatee of the Moonlight Sonata. After 1818, he would have had charge of his nephew Karl, when it is not at all likely that he would have written such a letter. Anyway, what is real beyond any doubt is that the composer really loved a particular woman very much, and that he loved her for a long time. It is clear to scholars that K. is the town where the Immortal Beloved was. Your love made me the happiest and unhappiest at the same time. By the way, the relationship of our composer with God was always very close, as we can read and listen in so many places…. Who, among the scores of women that Beethoven seduced, was his Immortal Beloved? The Immortal Beloved can be at ease, her secret is well kept... Generally speaking, I widely agree with Dom’s opinions on the my Immortal Beloved matter. Is it not a real building of heaven, our Love — but as firm, too, as the citadel of heaven. Though still in bed, my thoughts go out to you, my Immortal Beloved, now and then joyfully, then sadly, waiting to learn whether or not fate will hear us - I can live only wholly with you or not at all - Yes, I am resolved to wander so long away from you until I can fly to your arms and say that I am really at home with you, and can send my soul enwrapped in you into the land of spirits - Yes, unhappily it must be … And so that's where it remained. This is much later where she's recommending that they go for a holiday together and she says, we could go to Naples, we could go to Brazil, or we could go to England with Beethoven. It is evident that they were looking for clues in the wrong places to find the identity of his Immortal Beloved. Copyright © 2021 Daniel Adam Maltz. We shall probably soon meet, even today I cannot communicate my remarks to you, which during these days I made about my life — were our hearts close together, I should probably not make any such remarks. I should go back and explain that. I just recently discovered another letter by Therese to Josephine with the proof that they were hiding Maria Laura for about three years. She even applied for a pass to go to Italy with him and the children and so on. Immortal Beloved refers to a 10-page unsent love letter found in Beethoven’s estate following his death in 1827. for (i = 0; i < document.links.length;i++) { I think that the riddle of the Immortal Beloved letter is something of this kind of issue. The problem person would be her husband, that he's the one that's causing all the problems for Beethoven. function init() { And, Therese, in her memoirs talks about Minona as being different from the other children, being very stark, strong in her personality so much that we called her ‘the governess.’. It is quite astonishing to see how much thought and speculation the Immortal Beloved letter has provoked. And there's this snippet from the conversation book. Third Question: Of which towns does he speak of in the my Immortal Beloved letters? STEBLIN: Yes. Melodious Heart 15,993 views. And you found something curious about this ‘St’, STEBLIN: His 'St' looks very much like an 'A' and Gräffer, who was the copyist, if he just saw this one initial cipher? MALTZ: And so you, in doing your research into this theory, found examples in Beethoven's hand where he writes both an 'A' and an 'St' – in Beethoven's hand – so that we have definitive proof. Beethoven) biographers are worried about this because practically none of the supposed women was ever addressed in this manner by Beethoven. And, because of this letter that looked like 'A', in the first copy… because Beethoven's diary is actually missing and we only have two copies. That is why the American hypothesis about the Immortal Beloved letter is completely unacceptable, absolutely psychologically unlikely. So, he was with them for this whole time, but Josephine's mother was looking for a husband for her daughters and the older one, Therese, well, she sort of had a bit of a crooked back and wasn't that attractive. They'd be gone forever. Letter with the subject – Immortal Beloved. Born in December 1770, he was baptized on the 17th. MALTZ: What motivated your search for Beethoven's Immortal Beloved? It's actually the first entry. Learn more about the era of Haydn, Mozart, and Beethoven from my videos and podcast interviews with other Vienna-based performers and experts. Where is this town, noted as K., found when Beethoven explains: "... the only days when the post leaves for K..."? Ludwig von Beethoven – July 6, 1806 Ludwig van Beethoven (1770-1827), one of history’s most famous and mysterious composers died at the age of 57 with one great secret. Welcome to Classical Cake, the podcast where we discuss topics relating to Viennese classical music while enjoying one of Vienna's delicious cakes. Therefore, he met Goethe some days later. The possible years are therefore: 1795, 1801, 1807, 1812 or 1818. STEBLIN: Exactly. Following Beethoven's death in 1827, an undelivered letter in his hand addressed to "Immortal Beloved" is discovered. I mean, DNA studies are improving. Was it 1819 or 1820, I believe… where somebody writes to Beethoven about this musical child. You will get over it all the more as you know my faithfulness to you; never another one can own my heart, never — never! I like to look at old problems from a new angle as I said, well… ‘Auf diese Art mit 'A' geht alles zu Grunde.” Why, why should the letter 'A' refer to the woman? My guest is Dr. Rita Steblin, a musicologist whose archival work combines music history, iconography, and genealogical research. Numerous therefore propose it to be Karlsbad (more than 120 kilometers West of Prague, and a 100 or so kilometers from Teplitz). I mean her comment was that she overheard Beethoven's… well her father had asked Beethoven had he never met a woman that he would want to marry. And Beethoven had said ‘Yes, five years ago. And so they were looking for a woman whose first name started with 'A.' So why, given this, would she have returned to her husband? MALTZ: You mentioned Deym had died in 1804. This letter is a touching and passionate love letter, written to someone who he loves and who clearly loves him back. And I had found a letter from Charlotte, the youngest sister who had just gotten married and – this is in 1807 – where she's warning Josephine don't be alone with Beethoven. Also, I am intrigued by the fact that this letter was found in Beethoven's possession. And then exactly nine months after the letter to the Immortal Beloved, you have her seventh child born, Minona. STEBLIN: Well the name comes from Ossian, that Gaelic Bard, and appears in Goethe Sorrows of Young Werther, and is the daughter of a musician. MALTZ: Let's get to the evidence you discovered. He just copied it as an 'A' but I think it really was 'St'. And she also showed the most genius among the children. Beethoven is played by Gary Oldman, one of the finest actors around. And there's some other passages in his diary where around the birth of Minona where he says, ‘Oh, I will have to leave Vienna.’. Beethoven once threw marriage proposal on Therese Malfatti, which got rejected. So this was late 1819 and, exactly at that point in Beethoven's conversation books, someone is asking him and writing out, ‘You talk so much about the woman that her husband is going to suspect that the child among his children that has musical talent is your child.’ I mean this is great proof. So that's where you get Antonie Brentano or Almérie Esterházy or Amalie Sebald, and so on. And then other people told me it's not possible to determine fatherhood from such old bones but, Malte Böcker, the business head at the Beethoven House in Bonn, wrote me just recently an email saying, ‘I'd like to let you know that I have secured Minona's gravesite and nothing will happen to her bones.’. Which is to say, that our personage does not us allow to imagine THAT role for him. . As I say, you can't at this point determine fatherhood, but maybe there are other ways. And the names that Josephine gave to her children all have symbolic meaning. The letter was discovered after Beethoven's death and, naturally, sparked intense curiosity about what woman inspired such passion. MALTZ: Which of course, very similar to the 'Immortal Beloved' letter in the way that Beethoven says you're hiding yourself. MALTZ: Especially a married woman, I imagine. MALTZ: So let's move forward. His longtime secretary Anton Felix Schindler takes it upon himself to track down this person to whom Beethoven has willed his fortune. Just now I perceive that letters must be posted first thing early. As baptisms customarily took place the day following birth consensus is that the world’s greatest composer was born December 16, 1770. And then they said, pietätlos, there's no piety because you'd have to exhume Beethoven as well to make a study. STEBLIN: After the second world war, the communists came into the Czech Republic and descendants of Josephine – of her son Fritz – fled and they took with them 14 letters that they had in Beethoven's hand. Why? But knowing Fritz had said end of April that they'd already gotten to Baden, there I found – in an earlier list – Josephine. There is more than a hint of voyeurism in the acute desire to “know”. He never sent this letter. It would have meant that there had been an intimate love relationship. Brighten up — remain my true and only treasure, my all, as I to you. Beethoven proves that art offers something beyond the physical or the material world. Beethoven after his death left a letter addressed to his "immortal beloved," with no hint as to who that person was. It is an old obsession, and it dates from his times already. And we know that Beethoven met unexpectedly someone in Prague because in a letter later to Varnhagen von Ense, he apologizes for not having kept an appointment that he had made on the evening of July the 3rd. He HAD loved her before, so he might have loved her still in 1812. And what I have found is that she was musical and that they were hoping that she could make a living as a musician. I'm going back to Vienna.’ And so that's why he never sent the letter. It is equally curious to see how the theorists are split into two clearly visible groups in their proposition of my Immortal Beloved: the English and the Americans, more in favor of Antonie Brentano, and the Germans, French and other Europeans, more in favor of Joséphine von Brunsvik. Beethoven still has them waiting and hoping in vain to be able to open his secrets. So when did Josephine marry Stackelberg? Besides all the work he is known for, the composer once wrote a famous love letter to a nameless beloved, and the movie tries to find out who this beloved was--not easy, as Beethoven has had many women in his life. Without you — pursued by the kindness of the people here and there, whom I mean — to desire to earn just as little as they earn — humility of man towards men — it pains me — and when I regard myself in connection with the Universe, what I am, and what he is — whom one calls the greatest — and yet — there lies herein again the godlike of man. But because Beethoven couldn't lay claim to his own child, he then took over this nephew. Other theories were made, giving diverse answers between 1801 et 1807. So it was just made up by Schindler. The echoes of this love are listened along the years, in so much of his musical works. With this in mind, the questions of certain researchers leave me wondering: - Did he know one or many women, or did he not know any? And I think this name, Minona, as the daughter of a musician is of significance. It also required challenging previously-accepted scholarship and approaching the subject from new angles to find the truth. So who knows? It is possible that the relation between them was ultimately impossible for the restrictions that the time put on such situations, and then the relation had receded to a spiritual level. First of all, there are the memoirs of her oldest son, Fritz, who he started writing when he was 20 years old to his 15-year-old bride. Besides clearly stating that there was not a happy ending to this affair, many researchers also said that if the Immortal Beloved were Josephine, that the diary entry would have to read, “In this manner with J, everything goes to ruin.” In fact, there's been a lot of confusion surrounding this initial A. STEBLIN: Beethoven wrote this entry in a diary that he started in the fall of 1812. You presented some interesting similarities between letters known to be written by Beethoven to Josephine and the 'Immortal Beloved' letter. Soon after Beethoven’s death in 1827, a letter was found in a secret drawer in his Vienna apartment. The life and death of the legendary Ludwig van Beethoven. And so when the letter to the Immortal Beloved, dated July 6th only mentions the trip between Prague and Teplitz where Beethoven was writing this letter. Nothing of this would be worth of him, nor of the marvelous treasure he has left behind for us all. The Beethoven Immortal Beloved letter was found after Beethoven's death at the same time as "Heiligenstadt's Testament" is made up of two double pages, written on both sides, (8 pages), of about 200 x 238 mm and on a single sheet of about 201 x 119 mm both sides. Mondays — Thursdays — the only days, when the post goes from here to K. You suffer — oh! And remaining frustrated. MALTZ: Right. Yes, I have determined to wander about for so long far away, until I can fly into your arms and call myself quite at home with you, can send my soul enveloped by yours into the realm of spirits — yes, I regret, it must be. And just recently the business manager of the Beethoven House in Bonn, Malte Böcker, wanted to have all of my correspondence with this Gesundheitsamt because, in the end, it was sort of like… well, who's going to pay for this? They want to feel like they're a part of it. It is as if by knowing what kind of woman loved him and was loved by him, some part of the mystery of his enormous spirit would be finally revealed to us. And a lot of scholars in the 20th century claimed that this letter 'A' referred to the Immortal Beloved. Angel, I just hear that the post goes out every day — and must close therefore, so that you get the L. at once. His ideas and hypothesis are most perceptive and sensitive. It comes from Fanny Giannatasio del Rio in September of 1816 when she wrote down a snippet of a conversation she overheard between Beethoven and her father on a walk in Baden. And this was La Mara. MALTZ: The famously temperamental Beethoven never married, but, between July 6th and 7th in 1812, Beethoven wrote a three-part letter. In fact, it was an earlier woman who actually, in my mind, solved the mystery. And these are love letters from Beethoven to Josephine that he wrote between about 1804 and 1809 – this was the period after Deym had died. And that convinced me that she had the right woman. In Beethoven’s unsent love letter to his ‘Immortal Beloved’ he wrote: My angel, my all, my own self — only a few words today, and those in pencil (with yours)… Can our … And we know, in fact, I found documents in Brno that Stackelberg had made a quick trip to Prague in 1811 to borrow money from a banker there. To even consider that a man as open and frank as Beethoven evidently was, could maintain an affair with a friend’s wife, and then share their roof with her and her husband (and child and maid) only a few days after such a passionate interlude….. 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